Why the name Ubercore?
This is a question asked by Jes in IRC, and moved to the forums for further discussion.
uberchic: i'm confused by the new name still, perhaps you can help clear that up for me
[1:17pm] rszrama: mikejoconnor: sure thing; I might tag IslandUsurper with that, as it sounds like he's already scoping out the possibility of a Coder upgrade
[1:17pm] uberchic: as in why not just continue calling the project ubercart?
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[1:18pm] uberchic: i feel silly asking now, but i would feel even sillier asking later
[1:18pm] rszrama: uberchic: sure; the new name reflects primarily the ideas outlined in http://www.bywombats.com/blog/10-22-2009/ubercart-20-and-ubercore-initia... that were better expressed in http://www.ubercart.org/forum/announcements/13802/planning_and_developin...
[1:18pm] rszrama: the latter one was published at one point in time and is still accessible to people who have admin access on Ubercart.org
[1:19pm] rszrama: I think it does the best job thus far of explaining the goals for Ubercart to be in the application space vs. merely the component module space
[1:19pm] univate: I understand the idea of ubercore as being what drupal is for CMS and ubercart now going to be what Open Atrium is, an application that just runs out of the box.
[1:19pm] rszrama: univate: I think that's the best future, especially if Ubercart wants to contend against the likes of Magento
[1:20pm] uberchic: I have read both, and am curious as to why not to follow the open atrium approach and re-name the shipped package and not the core
[1:20pm] rszrama: univate: otherwise there will be that perpetual confusion
[1:20pm] mikejoconnor: univate: by abstracting ubercore int oa module vs app, we totally open the door for that
[1:20pm] uberchic: and i am all for ubercart continuing to be a streamlined module
[1:20pm] rszrama: uberchic: I suppose we could do that; but then what's the point of building up an Ubercart name and brand at all? may as well build up Views or CCK as a stand alone brand as well
[1:21pm] DamZ: the core needs to be renamed if we want not to be tied with the history of ubercart
[1:21pm] DamZ: *we do not want to be*
[1:21pm] uberchic: and why wouldn't we?
[1:21pm] uberchic: unless it is a totally different project...
[1:21pm] rszrama: DamZ: do you mean the existing codebase / revision history?
[1:21pm] ChubbyDirt: access denied for both of those links...
[1:22pm] DamZ: rszrama: yes, and the previous design decisions
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[1:22pm] DamZ: ubercore is an open process
[1:22pm] uberchic: chubbydirt: will publish, for this meeting
[1:22pm] DamZ: ubercart is not, anymore
[1:22pm] ChubbyDirt: thx
[1:22pm] rszrama: ChubbyDirt: my blog link should be fine I think
[1:22pm] DamZ: (because there is a lot of history)
[1:22pm] rszrama: ChubbyDirt: I just accessed it as anonymous
[1:22pm] uberchic: damz: how do you mean
[1:23pm] rszrama: just so the discussion doesn't take up too much time, can we offload this question to the forums?
[1:23pm] ChubbyDirt: got it... thx
[1:23pm] uberchic: which forums?
[1:23pm] rszrama: this meeting isn't really a hashing out of issues but more of a realignment / moving forward meeting
[1:23pm] uberchic: d7uc or uc,org?
[1:24pm] DamZ: uberchic: the name of things matter, and we need a fresh perspective
[1:24pm] rszrama: uberchic: I suppose if the question is "why the name Ubercore", a thread on d7uc.org that outlines the problems / questions would be ideal - the idea being that topics in the forums result in documentation changes on the site itself
[1:24pm] uberchic: damz: i agree, and this new name is confusing, and implies ties with ubercart
[1:24pm] rszrama: aside from naming, does anyone else have any questions about the general goals for Ubercart on D7?
[1:25pm] mikejoconnor: uberchic: they are not to competing items. we are building one to improve the other
[1:26pm] uberchic: damz, mike: apologies, happy to continue this elsewhere, still confused, but happy to move on